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	<description>Self-proclaimed web spammer</description>
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		<title>By: site builder</title>
		<link>http://www.esrun.co.uk/blog/dropping-affiliate-cookies/comment-page-1/#comment-6279</link>
		<dc:creator>site builder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 May 2011 06:21:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Somebody commented a long time ago about affiliate networks shaving off sales. I am relatively new been marking for about 9 months or so and I was wondering if they still did this and if so is there a way I can protect myself. Like if I add a redirect page and keep track of it and I know they are shaving is there then anything I can do about it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Somebody commented a long time ago about affiliate networks shaving off sales. I am relatively new been marking for about 9 months or so and I was wondering if they still did this and if so is there a way I can protect myself. Like if I add a redirect page and keep track of it and I know they are shaving is there then anything I can do about it?</p>
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		<title>By: lee</title>
		<link>http://www.esrun.co.uk/blog/dropping-affiliate-cookies/comment-page-1/#comment-3858</link>
		<dc:creator>lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 19:03:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I put together my own sales page for an affiliate site as they had, like many an opt in form which will take my sale away. 

I need to know how to drop my affiliate id into MY sales page so when the visitor moves on to purchase i am credited. 

Ive tried just copying the paypal page url, that dont work. Need some help guys please :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I put together my own sales page for an affiliate site as they had, like many an opt in form which will take my sale away. </p>
<p>I need to know how to drop my affiliate id into MY sales page so when the visitor moves on to purchase i am credited. </p>
<p>Ive tried just copying the paypal page url, that dont work. Need some help guys please <img src='http://www.esrun.co.uk/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mr Bearly</title>
		<link>http://www.esrun.co.uk/blog/dropping-affiliate-cookies/comment-page-1/#comment-3746</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr Bearly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 02:48:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I use cookie stuffing on my sales pages so the commission thieves don&#039;t steal my commissions.  They don&#039;t see an affiliate link to hack.

On my main site I manage the affiliates by resetting the cookies programatically for the buyer.  Cookie stuffing won&#039;t help you here as I rewrite them on purchase.

I don&#039;t care what link you arrive on, the person who introduced the you first gets the credit, not the last so no amount of promotion, splitting commissions or dodgy bonuses will make a scrap of difference.

Like so many things it isn&#039;t the technology or technique that is wrong, it&#039;s the way some people use it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I use cookie stuffing on my sales pages so the commission thieves don&#8217;t steal my commissions.  They don&#8217;t see an affiliate link to hack.</p>
<p>On my main site I manage the affiliates by resetting the cookies programatically for the buyer.  Cookie stuffing won&#8217;t help you here as I rewrite them on purchase.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t care what link you arrive on, the person who introduced the you first gets the credit, not the last so no amount of promotion, splitting commissions or dodgy bonuses will make a scrap of difference.</p>
<p>Like so many things it isn&#8217;t the technology or technique that is wrong, it&#8217;s the way some people use it.</p>
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		<title>By: ffnuu</title>
		<link>http://www.esrun.co.uk/blog/dropping-affiliate-cookies/comment-page-1/#comment-3083</link>
		<dc:creator>ffnuu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 02:19:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Question if I use for Clickbank would I then need to list every affiliate hoplink?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Question if I use for Clickbank would I then need to list every affiliate hoplink?</p>
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		<title>By: Pat23</title>
		<link>http://www.esrun.co.uk/blog/dropping-affiliate-cookies/comment-page-1/#comment-2622</link>
		<dc:creator>Pat23</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 23:22:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s the thing.  If everyone stuffed cookies, and I mean every affiliate in a program, wouldn&#039;t that just put us back to square one.  Then it would be a battle of cunning to get the first/last click again.

Is it really this simple?  Or I am missing something?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s the thing.  If everyone stuffed cookies, and I mean every affiliate in a program, wouldn&#8217;t that just put us back to square one.  Then it would be a battle of cunning to get the first/last click again.</p>
<p>Is it really this simple?  Or I am missing something?</p>
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		<title>By: Ebay klagt DigitalPoint Chef Shawn Hogan an - angeblich Cookie Stuffing &#187; Online Marketing</title>
		<link>http://www.esrun.co.uk/blog/dropping-affiliate-cookies/comment-page-1/#comment-2599</link>
		<dc:creator>Ebay klagt DigitalPoint Chef Shawn Hogan an - angeblich Cookie Stuffing &#187; Online Marketing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 22:02:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] worum es geht, oder wer sich selbst die Finger verbrennen möchte, sollte das hier bei Esrun lesen: Dropping affiliate cookies Cookie stuffing scripts Cookie stuffing revisited Aber man sollte sich immer im Klaren sein, das [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] worum es geht, oder wer sich selbst die Finger verbrennen möchte, sollte das hier bei Esrun lesen: Dropping affiliate cookies Cookie stuffing scripts Cookie stuffing revisited Aber man sollte sich immer im Klaren sein, das [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Cashcorp</title>
		<link>http://www.esrun.co.uk/blog/dropping-affiliate-cookies/comment-page-1/#comment-2440</link>
		<dc:creator>Cashcorp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 00:25:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The networks do the SAME thing to you man.
Its called shaving,
they all do it. Believe me-I know-I use custom landing pages for all my products, and I can track when someone clicks the buy button-it goes through a redirect page first just for that purpose.

I use to catch something like 100 sales a week being &quot;shaved&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The networks do the SAME thing to you man.<br />
Its called shaving,<br />
they all do it. Believe me-I know-I use custom landing pages for all my products, and I can track when someone clicks the buy button-it goes through a redirect page first just for that purpose.</p>
<p>I use to catch something like 100 sales a week being &#8220;shaved&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Jordan Stevens</title>
		<link>http://www.esrun.co.uk/blog/dropping-affiliate-cookies/comment-page-1/#comment-2439</link>
		<dc:creator>Jordan Stevens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 00:24:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>amen guys! If you have a problem with stuffing-your retarded. You do realize that YOUR affiliate networks, the one you so badly want to protect from this tactic, are shaving your earnings each and every day.

Right?

Cj does it, amazon does it,clickbank does it, hell im a merchant on paydotcom-and THEY do it FOR me-I almost wish they wouldnt as it pisses off some of my goldstar affiliates. But hey, thats the game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>amen guys! If you have a problem with stuffing-your retarded. You do realize that YOUR affiliate networks, the one you so badly want to protect from this tactic, are shaving your earnings each and every day.</p>
<p>Right?</p>
<p>Cj does it, amazon does it,clickbank does it, hell im a merchant on paydotcom-and THEY do it FOR me-I almost wish they wouldnt as it pisses off some of my goldstar affiliates. But hey, thats the game.</p>
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		<title>By: TheBlackhatCoach</title>
		<link>http://www.esrun.co.uk/blog/dropping-affiliate-cookies/comment-page-1/#comment-2316</link>
		<dc:creator>TheBlackhatCoach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 08:38:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems that I am a bit late to this cookie party.

I don&#039;t stuff cookies, (at this time, lol), for the same reasons that you mentioned; it just seems a bit too underhanded.  Sorta like picking someone&#039;s pocket.

To those that do, good luck.

that&#039;s it,
Bompa</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems that I am a bit late to this cookie party.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t stuff cookies, (at this time, lol), for the same reasons that you mentioned; it just seems a bit too underhanded.  Sorta like picking someone&#8217;s pocket.</p>
<p>To those that do, good luck.</p>
<p>that&#8217;s it,<br />
Bompa</p>
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		<title>By: Cookie Stuffing with .htaccess &#124; Chewie.co.uk - Now with 100% less Wookie!</title>
		<link>http://www.esrun.co.uk/blog/dropping-affiliate-cookies/comment-page-1/#comment-2300</link>
		<dc:creator>Cookie Stuffing with .htaccess &#124; Chewie.co.uk - Now with 100% less Wookie!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 17:04:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] There has been a lot of debate about whether using this method on external sites is classed as stealing and Esrun wrote a great article on it here. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] There has been a lot of debate about whether using this method on external sites is classed as stealing and Esrun wrote a great article on it here. [...]</p>
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